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Post Fri Jan 13, 2012 12:32 pm

Why Politics Beyond The Local Level Are Meaningless

I'm sure it's been talked about before, but I just thought this issue merited it's own topic. We all know (or at least understand from being on this forum) that PO/Collapse are going to fundamentally alter our lives, and the way we live. Contraction on every level will be inevitable, from where we get our food to how we interact with each other. Re-Localize, it has been called. With all the talk about the 2012 elections coming up, I thought I would raise an important counter-argument: Politics beyond the local level are meaningless.

From the "Ron Paul for President" thread:

unrepentantcowboy wrote:I won't be voting in the final election.

No more lesser of evil bullshit.

Evil is evil and there ain't no lesser.


I have to adamantly agree with cowboy here. "No more lesser of evil bullshit" indeed. Because, eventually, it doesn't matter who becomes POTUS. As PO and Collapse become more and more evident to the general populace, and it's effects are globally felt, the PTB will ultimately lose their grip on control, as people will do whatever it takes to ensure their survival and the survival of their close friends and family. This will lead to severe consequences for governments around the world.

As money becomes worthless, the incentive to employ standing armies and police forces will be nil. Sure, for a time these forces will be used against the population in a last-ditch effort to maintain control, but eventually the common soldier or Peace Officer will learn to disobey orders, to say "No," and return to their families and communities to protect them. Therefore, the ability to enforce asinine laws and regulations against the rioting masses will ultimately evaporate.

Once people realize what's really going on, when the riots end, and no answers come down from federal governments (which will have long since collapsed), people will be left to figure out the answers to problems at the local level. Your town or city mayor/supervisor, council, and local government (and maybe county-level governments, local sherriffs, etc.) will be the only ones who matter. It'll be far more important to worry about local elections, and focus on specific issues related to your area, rather than national or multi-national problems.

So don't worry too much about Obama, or Romney, Gingrich, Santorum, and all the other GOP cronies for that matter. Don't bother voting in November either. Why would you waste your time supporting a corrupt and failing system? Eventually, they won't matter.
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Post Fri Jan 13, 2012 1:14 pm

Re: Why Politics Beyond The Local Level Are Meaningless

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- I actually agree... You can't vote your way out of fascism. Putting the skipper's hat on a new guy after the iceberg has been struck and the boiler room is flooded isn't going to stop the ship sinking.

- Those of us who intend to stay out of the Fedghettos don't need to worry about who is going to be running GovCo, but about how we're going to live Outside the US Inc system...

- Ironically, that's why I've taken an interest in the Presidential election at this point. Not because I care who gets inaugurated in January. That's not going to make any real difference. I want to see what kind of man my neighbors are willing to vote for.

- Best result, from my point of view, would be single-digit voter turn-out. That'd tell me that we've finally wised-up enough to stop playing their game and endorsing their bogus system.

- Failing that, I'm looking at the candidates... Obama is an unjustifiably arrogant unAmerican bastard and utter failure. Romney, Gingrich, and Santorum are just horrible, HORRIBLE excuses for human beings. I may not agree with Ron Paul on every issue, but he's the only guy in the race who is consistent in his principles and actions, and has been incorruptible up to this point.

- I don't care who is in the White House in 2013... I'm just watching the race to see how disgusted I need to be with my countrymen, and how much more ammo I need to stock.

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Post Fri Jan 13, 2012 3:11 pm

Re: Why Politics Beyond The Local Level Are Meaningless

OldHorseman wrote:.

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- Ironically, that's why I've taken an interest in the Presidential election at this point. Not because I care who gets inaugurated in January. That's not going to make any real difference. I want to see what kind of man my neighbors are willing to vote for.

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- I don't care who is in the White House in 2013... I'm just watching the race to see how disgusted I need to be with my countrymen, and how much more ammo I need to stock.

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EXACTLY! That's how I've always looked at the American elections (being Canadian, by default, of course). And at this point it doesn't matter what nationality you are here in North America either.
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Post Tue Jan 17, 2012 5:48 am

Re: Why Politics Beyond The Local Level Are Meaningless

OldHorseman wrote:.

- I actually agree... You can't vote your way out of fascism. Putting the skipper's hat on a new guy after the iceberg has been struck and the boiler room is flooded isn't going to stop the ship sinking.

- Those of us who intend to stay out of the Fedghettos don't need to worry about who is going to be running GovCo, but about how we're going to live Outside the US Inc system...

- Ironically, that's why I've taken an interest in the Presidential election at this point. Not because I care who gets inaugurated in January. That's not going to make any real difference. I want to see what kind of man my neighbors are willing to vote for.

- Best result, from my point of view, would be single-digit voter turn-out. That'd tell me that we've finally wised-up enough to stop playing their game and endorsing their bogus system.

- Failing that, I'm looking at the candidates... Obama is an unjustifiably arrogant unAmerican bastard and utter failure. Romney, Gingrich, and Santorum are just horrible, HORRIBLE excuses for human beings. I may not agree with Ron Paul on every issue, but he's the only guy in the race who is consistent in his principles and actions, and has been incorruptible up to this point.

- I don't care who is in the White House in 2013... I'm just watching the race to see how disgusted I need to be with my countrymen, and how much more ammo I need to stock.

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Why is Obama unAmerican?
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Post Tue Jan 17, 2012 12:59 pm

Re: Why Politics Beyond The Local Level Are Meaningless

Indian wrote:Why is Obama unAmerican?

- Putting aside the much-disparaged, but still very real question of his legal citizenship for the moment...

- Here's a guy whose father and stepfather were not Americans, whose mother went to great lengths to distance herself from everything that would be considered American culture, who spent formative years overseas. He's never had an honest job or had to actually work for anything. And, most importantly, damned near everything he's said and done (except for the occasional empty pandering) shows utter disdain and disregard for the American way.

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