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Post Thu Sep 29, 2011 3:20 pm

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allissun wrote:the Black Hunter, that was a great link about "Jackrabbit" Johannsen. Very cool. Physical conditioning really helps with the mind and stress, and I like your reasoning about whether buying more preps might actually be less useful than working on your physical condition instead. Really good point, and that might give a little more hope to people who really don't have much money set aside for buying preps.


Thanks! I can say from personal experience as a guy who waffles around over the years from "good" to "decent" to "excellent" to (occasionally) "superb" shape depending on the energy and attention invested, that it is only in the "excellent" phase and beyond that i truly feel prepared to meet whatever the world has to dish out.

But Foster makes a very good point. In a survival situation it is a very fine line, and if you are truly in crisis, (like lost in the woods and know not what to eat or how to get it) the onus is on you to conserve energy. Look at the ermine: the ermine has very little body mass and a shape that is engineered for losing energy/heat, and yet lives in, among other places, the arctic. How does it survive? By sleeping 9/10ths of the day, and maximizing its hunting during the few waking hours. As soon as it kills and eats, it goes back to sleep in an insulated nest beneath the snow.

This situation is a crisis one for humans. Successful people in my country's history who subsisted in the wilderness (traders, missionaries, mountain men,) got very good at procuring food. The also burned enormous amounts of energy and ate huge quantities of meat. Fortunately for them, there was plenty of wild food to be had. Not to say they didn't know hunger - they did. But overall they were astonishingly vigorous people, whose physical feats were stupefing. (I just finished reading a true one about one guy, who was well into middle age, who snowshoed 70 miles over the Canadian rockies - basically North America's Himalyas) in the depths of winter to keep an xmas dinner date with his family!) Their resting metabolisms would indeed have been very high. These were the sorts of people who forged my country, and they offer a wonderful window into human potential and capabilities under demanding conditions.
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Post Thu Sep 29, 2011 4:51 pm

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the Black Hunter wrote:... These were the sorts of people who forged my country, and they offer a wonderful window into human potential and capabilities under demanding conditions.


Yes, both sides of my family were Canadian pioneers. Lots of hardships to overcome in those first generations here (Canada).
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Post Thu Sep 29, 2011 5:49 pm

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Foster wrote:"Man proposes and God disposes."

I was thinking just the other day about an article i read a long time back about the power of diversity or some such thing... it mentioned how nature builds in resilience by having a few "flex versions" that offer enhanced survivability... often what folks overlook or misunderstand.

Staying in decent physical shape (as opposed the "excellent") could very well be sound advice. The metabolism goes up with all the calorie burning and churning and stretching out and beefing up. I am not saying "be a couch potato." But there is actually a case to be made for the "famine insurance" (read "slight gut") that some folks have... and it would be supported by biology. We can't see into the future. But nature plays the long game --that's one of the reasons there are observable preferences to a slow metabolism aproach. (also, notice how obesity really hits the native american peoples once they take to the cornucopian diet.) So all of us not-so-fit folks can feel a little better! :) There are some times when it is good to have some fat on you!! And food will likely get scarce for most people. Ever fast?


Well that makes me feel better about the weight my wife has chosen for me :lol:
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Post Thu Sep 29, 2011 8:20 pm

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Oh yeah!! I also vote for solid tires for our bikes!
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Post Thu Sep 29, 2011 8:27 pm

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Inflatable tires are a much more comfortable ride and possibly no less durable in the long run, no matter what the weight.
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Post Thu Sep 29, 2011 10:40 pm

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I actually gained five pounds this summer... I couldn't believe it, haven't gained any weight since high school, except for when I was pregnant. I was thinking to myself, oh shit... is this the beginning of flab-land for me? Well, I lost 2 of that and now I don't worry at all about it, thanks to Foster... we'll be fasting soon enough. Might as well enjoy the ride and get that metabolism slowing down already.

On another note regarding fitness, we do have another thread (30 days to fitness) that hasn't had a comment for a while. We could take it over there and add some good couch/computer-potatoe exercises while we're on or off-topic over there. :P
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TPTB and MSM and you and i want to have hope... hope is so exhausting. Foster

This is a characteristic of zombies in general, they always manage to look alive no matter what. PM
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