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Post Thu Feb 02, 2012 5:27 pm

The Politics of Peak Oil

A must read.

It’s a bit hard to believe that in 2012 anyone is still unclear about what “peak oil” means, but enough confusion about it has surfaced in the past week that I feel compelled to, once again, try to set the record straight.

“Peak oil” refers to the maximum rate of production of regular crude oil. Period. It’s a number.

It is not a theory.

It does not mean “running out of oil.”

It is not the moral equivalent of Malthusianism.

It is not a political movement, or a religion.

It’s not a dessert topping. It is not a floor wax.

It is not about oil reserves (oil that has been proved to exist and to be producible at a profit), or resources (oil that may exist in the ground, irrespective of its potential to be produced profitably). Those quantities do play a role in estimating the peak, but do not determine it in any way.

“Peak oil” is not the same as “the end of cheap oil,” although the latter is also true. Price is not a proxy for production.

“Unconventional” liquids such as biofuels, natural gas liquids, synthetic oil made from bitumen in tar sands or from kerogen in shales, and liquids made from coal or natural gas are not regular crude oil, nor are they equivalent to crude on several important counts. When you’re talking about unconventional liquids, you are not talking about oil, and lumping them in with oil does not increase the volume of oil. That’s why it’s called “peak oil” and not “peak liquid fuels.”

This is why I insist on the term “tar sands.” They contain not oil, but bitumen, a low-grade hydrocarbon which is a tar-like solid at room temperature, and must be upgraded with substantial inputs of energy to turn it into a synthetic oil. Calling them “oil sands” is nothing but a PR stunt.

Likewise, if you’re not talking about data on oil production rates, or the general topic of reaching the peak rate, then you’re not talking about peak oil.

I hope that’s clear, and I hope to never have to say it again.

Since it may seem pedantic to be so fussy about the definition, I will explain why it matters.


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Post Thu Feb 02, 2012 7:45 pm

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Amazing how many of the responders just don't get it.
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Post Thu Feb 02, 2012 8:48 pm

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Picasso Moon wrote:Amazing how many of the responders just don't get it.


Say what it really is, PM. The responders that don't get it don't get it because they are just plain stupid. I'm sick of coddling the idiots. I can't wait 'til they get sorted out - one way or another.

End of story.

ETA: BTW, ran across another PO story yesterday. Didn't see it posted and because it's all stuff we already know, I'm not going to start a new thread on it because it fits here just fine...

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/opi ... le2321815/

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Post Thu Feb 02, 2012 10:43 pm

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PetroApocalypse wrote:
Picasso Moon wrote:Amazing how many of the responders just don't get it.


Say what it really is, PM. The responders that don't get it don't get it because they are just plain stupid. I'm sick of coddling the idiots. I can't wait 'til they get sorted out - one way or another.

End of story.

ETA: BTW, ran across another PO story yesterday. Didn't see it posted and because it's all stuff we already know, I'm not going to start a new thread on it because it fits here just fine...

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/opi ... le2321815/


Some don't get it because they're stupid, and some don't get it because "you ain't gonna learn what you don't wanna know." (Bob Weir and John Perry Barlow, 1972). Or, like Mark Twain said, their jobs depend upon not knowing.
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Post Fri Feb 03, 2012 12:14 am

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PetroApocalypse wrote:...

ETA: BTW, ran across another PO story yesterday. Didn't see it posted and because it's all stuff we already know, I'm not going to start a new thread on it because it fits here just fine...

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/opi ... le2321815/


Thanks for the post! It was great to see PO being discussed in a Canadian mainstream newspaper, and fun to read through the comments as well. This is a good thread, so thanks to you too, roccman.
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Post Fri Feb 03, 2012 9:41 am

Re: The Politics of Peak Oil

The Greatest user of oil, by far, are ocean going ships.

Bunker oil.

Last I heard, China had slowed it's ships' speeds by 1/2.

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As you can see, Global Trade has come to a halt.
Nothing can be transported profitably.

Not even oil.

that means that oil is no longer fungible. Which is the Sin quo Non of USSA
policy.

The USSA's only policy is to destroy those oil producers who refuse to be a part of our system.

Which is why Panetta said he can't stop Israel from attacking Iran.
Note that the Laughing Response from Asia is not talked about....in
polite USSA financial/social media.... :roll: :shock: :lol: :? 8-) :twisted:
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Post Fri Feb 03, 2012 10:04 am

Re: The Politics of Peak Oil

Be careful for what you wish for because this is coming down on us all regardless of your position on P.O.,may G-d have mercy on us.It's not going to be pretty!

little joe



PetroApocalypse wrote:
Picasso Moon wrote:Amazing how many of the responders just don't get it.


Say what it really is, PM. The responders that don't get it don't get it because they are just plain stupid. I'm sick of coddling the idiots. I can't wait 'til they get sorted out - one way or another.

End of story.

ETA: BTW, ran across another PO story yesterday. Didn't see it posted and because it's all stuff we already know, I'm not going to start a new thread on it because it fits here just fine...

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/opi ... le2321815/
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Post Fri Feb 03, 2012 1:13 pm

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As you can see, Global Trade has come to a halt.
Nothing can be transported profitably.


Sorry, but the BDI (Baltic Dry Index) can not be used as a measure of how much goods is being transported.
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Post Fri Feb 03, 2012 2:33 pm

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OldNorseman wrote:
As you can see, Global Trade has come to a halt.
Nothing can be transported profitably.


Sorry, but the BDI (Baltic Dry Index) can not be used as a measure of how much goods is being transported.


Hey look, a definitive statement backed up by absolutely nothing. Nice.
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Post Sat Feb 04, 2012 3:01 am

Re: The Politics of Peak Oil

He's right, i.e., the BDI measures the cost of shipping.

These might help in tandem with BDI:

"Greece, The Baltic Dry, And... Oh My"

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/greece-ba ... -and-oh-my

"Unprecedented Global Monetary Policy As World Trade Volume Craters"

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/unprecede ... me-craters
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