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Post Tue Jan 18, 2011 10:52 pm

The Male Advantage...

- Out in the country, back in the old days, folks used to rely heavily upon their equines and bovines.

- Today, when you drive through the boonies in much of America (especially around here), you still see lots of horses and cows all over the place. So, as the Cornucopian paradigm collapses, and the people who stay out in the country lose access to all the petroleum-enabled niceties, they should be able to revert to the old ways pretty easily, right?

- Afraid not.

- You see, the horses and cattle populations in rural America today are strikingly different than they were a century or so ago. Draft horses and mules have given way to light riding horses bred for show and recreational activities. The family milk cows of old are few and far-between. The cattle in the roadside pastures are beef.

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- When the tractor fuel and store-bought dairy get hard to come by (hyper-expensive, rationed, unavailable), resourceful folks are going to make-do with what they have available. Former hunter-jumpers and trail horses will be re-purposed for farm work. Beef cows will get milked... But the improvisers will soon realize that they'd be better-off with something closer to proper work and milking stock.

- But, by that time, the option of buying animals from far-away and having them trucked home may not be available. The demand is going to have to be met with stock bred and raised in the immediate area. Which won't be easy, with so few draft horses and family-type milk cows to breed from in many places.

- Fortunately, you don't need a full-blooded Belgian or Jersey to get a considerable improvement in doomstead functionality compared to common riding-type horses and beef cows. You can get it with cross-breeds, which means you can use the Angus, quarterhorse, Hereford, and Arabian animals that make up so much of the current populations to augment the draft and dairy breeding stock.

- Here's where the male advantage comes in... If you have a Jersey cow, and breed her to an Angus bull, you'll get one cross-breed calf per year. Half the time, that calf will be a bull, who is basically just a mediocre source of beef. So you'll get approximately one serviceable, half-breed milking cow every other year from your Jersey cow. If you're trying to help supply your half of the county with family milk cows, it's going to be very slow going at that rate.

- But, if you have a Jersey bull, you can breed him to dozens of Angus cows every year, half of whom will produce passable milk cows. On top of that, you can breed him to the few available full milk cows, producing more full milk cows and more full dairy bulls who can go on to be bred to the Angus cows to produce more decent half-breeds.

- While it'd generally be preferable to breed light stallions to draft mares, so as to allow the foals to develop in industrial-size wombs, larger quarterhorse and other "light" mares usually have no particular difficulty carrying and delivering draft-cross foals. And the same dynamic applies to horses as cattle here. A draft stallion can produce a lot more cross-breed work horses than a draft mare can.

- Problem is that, as with most farm animals, intact males already make up a small minority of each population. Since a stallion can service many mares, and a bull many cows, there has always been little reason to keep large numbers of breeding males around. And lately, with the options of trucking mares/cows off to be bred, and more recently, shipping semen in for artificial insemination, studs and bulls have gotten even fewer and farther between.

- So we're planning to use what time we have left before Cornucopian resources go kerflunk to try an set our farm up with a good draft stallion. Since quality draft horses are rare here these days, and studs even more-so, we're going to ship-in semen from selected out-of-state stallions for our good Belgian mares and hope for a colt. (If you want a really manageable and reliable stallion, there's nothing quite like starting from scratch.) With any luck, we'll be in a position to help seriously improve the local work stock in four years or so.

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- Although they are a notorious PITA, I'm also half-tempted to raise a Jersey bull, which would not only allow me to continue to produce full-blooded milkers from my own cows after the AI option goes away, but would also allow us to provide cross-breeding service to folks stuck milking beef cows.

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Post Fri Apr 15, 2011 10:01 pm

Re: The Male Advantage...

Crossing a Holstein with a Jersey produces a wonderful milker. Increased production, 50/50 chance for Jersey temperament, still high fat/protein in the milk. And they're pretty.
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Post Sat Apr 16, 2011 4:01 pm

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My friend has a bull that's half Jersey, half Brahmin. He's named Nandi, and in our last encounter, I really understood how having a bull by the horns put you on the horns of a dilemma. Fortunately, he reached the end of his rope.....
I've given up on waiting for other people to get it. Now I'm waiting for it to get them.
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Post Wed Jun 01, 2011 9:18 pm

Re: The Male Advantage...

Yeah, and the whole time you were writing this, you were thinking about how this applies to humans, too. Admit it, OH.
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Post Thu Jun 02, 2011 9:26 am

Re: The Male Advantage...

Of course it applies to humans. Pretty versus rugged. Real quality males being scarce.

Always the practical one, Hoss. Old and Wise.

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Post Mon Dec 26, 2011 1:31 am

Re: The Male Advantage...

Good idea,especially for those of us with limited pasture,money,time,ect..In the South we might also want to breed mules, so a male donkey might also be an economical alternative to draft horses.
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Post Mon Dec 26, 2011 1:58 am

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countryboy wrote:In the South we might also want to breed mules, so a male donkey might also be an economical alternative to draft horses.


Problem is that a good ass is hard to find. ;)

Seriously. Mammoth Jacks suitable for siring working-sized mules are scarce as hen's teeth these days.

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Post Sun Jan 01, 2012 10:43 pm

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Both are rare and expensive. ;)

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Post Wed Jan 11, 2012 2:36 am

Re: The Male Advantage...

I noticed in the local paper today that someone has dairy bull calves for sale.This might be a good and inexpensive way to keep a dairy bull,the initial costs are low and a calf requires less pasture and feed.Sell the calf when it gets too large and start again.
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Post Wed Jan 11, 2012 1:30 pm

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- Yeah. There are always dairy bull calves available for next to nothing. They are essentially a by-product of milk production. Many are sold/given away way before weaning age, and will have to be bottle-fed by whoever gets them.

- Odd thing is that dairy bulls are notoriously mean. Cuddle-bunnies that the heifers are, that's not what you'd expect. But few people want to keep them around. But, when shipped semen is no longer an option, somebody is going to need to keep dairy bulls in each "neighborhood", or we'll have bred the dairy out of our household milk cows in a few generations.

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