I wish I could answer your question, Pam, but I'm no longer married. Hey, come to think of it, it's like we're in the same boat! I sympathize, though, arguing over how to spend money is the pits. Wonder why he changed his tune.

best I can tell terrifun, he just became overwhelmed with so much information. He was looking for a fast crash too and when it didn't happen he sort of chucked the whole idea. He wanted to have hope for the future too. Not like some of us here have hope that we will rise again from the ashes some day, but that there won't be any ashes in the first place.
I understand and don't get too awfully frustrated with him about it, he is my friend. I just keep moving along, trying to find ways to save money or make improvements that will benefit us in the long run.
sometimes, If I can couch things in a certain way to where is doesn't appear doom related but rather a wise move for us in other terms, he will go along with it. Like buying the food dehydrator.
Most of my really valuable preps are in my head too. LOL
skills, that's where it's at!

Hellooo this is frotholina!! Like im totally excited about this totally awesome post!! But what the H,,,,E,,,, double hockey sticks!!!! Oh my gooosh,,I bet my brother frothing would like totally want to discuss this topic!!

If you girls are going to stick to medieval
Tampon comstruction, then fine you go for it. But this is a great topic!

silly... you are getting PM (d)

frothing has a sister???!!!
who knew!

Hi pamela. I so hear you on this one, with the important caveat that at least your hub was at one point on board!! It is even harder when the hub really refuses to wise up ... he sort of gets it but he doesn't want to admit that cornucopia cannot go on forever.

All I can say is that you are on the right track ... each step you take to prepare can also be described in more neutral terms such as saving money, being environmentally conscious, or even just "hobby" activities. Yes, my new hobby is water storage!! And passive solar houses are nice because they have so much natural light, don't you think?! Okay, maybe it doesn't work for everything, but you get the idea since you've already been doing it that way. My other thought is that everyone needs a break from doom ... and non-doomers need MORE of a break from doom! Like maybe a year or two!! Having to continually deny to oneself that there might be some truth to this doom stuff when you really prefer to completely ignore it and continue with BAU has got to be tiresome. So just keep on prepping and only discuss things in a more upfront way when truely necessary. Things that require more financial investment of course require more honest discussion, in my opinion ...

And by the way, it was really hard to give a thoughtful response to this thread with the very notion of Frotholina making me laugh!

i know. LOL Frotholina indeed!
and you're right too. I think he knows in his own way and he's just scared like all of us. this mess we're in is a terrifying thing and sometimes a break is in order.

Right now I am single, so I am more or less free to decide how to prep at the moment. However, I think it would be somewhat of a challenge to explain to a future girlfriend why we need to prepare, but hopefully I would find someone of a similar mindset.

Not at all EG. Just make sure you choose someone who is already a doomer.