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Post Sat Jan 15, 2011 3:28 pm

Shelter: Dual ring villages

What is a dual ring village?
Think of a strip mall or long apartment building, wrapped into a circle. Do it again - a doughnut inside a doughnut. Add gateways. Now you have a central park, two ring buildings / walls, a circular street between them. Add continuous balconies, verandas or alcoves for the upper level, and you have the basic idea. Top off the ring buildings with rooftop gardens, and you have the basic framework for 21st century prosperity.

The Dual Ring Village is an innovative solution to the problem of providing human habitat, faced with geometric population growth. Unlike the 90 degree grid of streets and sky high buildings, the dual rings are aligned on a hexagonal grid. Each dual ring village, by design, is an enclosed gated community.
This results in synergistic improvements to efficiency, durability, security and convenience.

http://www.ozmirage.org/anic/tiki-read_ ... rticleId=6
Rings and rings...
Why are we going in circles? Rings may be one of the ideal ways to live in a high population density environment. Unlike the rectilinear grid, the dual ring presents a model that provides parkland, pedestrian friendly promenades, and minimizing distance between homes and necessities.

And they also can be secure environments, with gated access to each ring.

Living in circles

Though many advocates of preparedness stress solo survival strategies, I am persuaded that we may have to institute a different plan of action. Instead of stalwart mini fortresses of solitude, we should consider fortified villages for our families, extended families, friends, and acquaintances.

Part of the problem, is that we've been carefully indoctrinated / socialized to be divisive, selfish, and uncompromising. Most families are fractured by generations, unable to cohabit. Isn't it true that we poke fun at adult children who live with their parents? How absurd are we!

In most of the world that honors family, it is more likely that several generations and their families live together, building prosperity and security for all blood kin.

In socialist America, we've been taught to substitute Big Brother as our benefactor. We now shunt our aged to warehouses, where they wither and die far from their kinfolk. True, part of the reason is that due to socialist overhead expenses, families cannot afford to spare adults to care for the old or the young, as did our ancestors just 100 years ago.

But let's change that - let's rethink the whole paradigm of consolidated population.

Ring Think

Unlike 90 degree "Manhattan" architecture, where everything is based on rectilinear divisions and shapes, ring architecture will focus on circles and closest packing (hexagonal) arrays.

There are quite a few benefits to going in circles. For one, a curved roadway imposes a natural limit on speeding. There's no need for twisty roads and cul-de-sacs to discourage speedsters. And a traffic circle (roundabout) reduces the need for stop-and-go intersections.

No Sky Needles

By various thought experiments, I realized that the multistory ring offers solutions to problems that plague super dense urban design. If you consider that skyscrapers are like needles, and roadways open to the sky are wasteful of surface and volume, you will get the message.

If you've ever lived in an inner city "high rise" with your view dominated by the side of your neighbor's "high rise", you can relate to the visual pollution you face.

The collapse of the World Trade Towers illustrate the dangers of needle architecture, where people become trapped by the very nature of the structure.

In contrast, the continuous ring is far less restrictive, offering escape routes up, down, and around the ring.

Mixed Use

The zoning practice of segregating "residential" from "non-residential" areas incurs a penalty on those who can't afford an automobile, nor have access to mass transit. Ring villages can easily accommodate mixed use development, with the ground level reserved for enterprise and public access, and reserving upper levels for apartments or small home offices.

The inherent design of a dual ring village provide an ideal central park within the inner ring. Separated from the circular roadway between the rings, the park is ideal for children, protected and secure.

The family friendly design is also efficient, since the ring villagers have easy access to the many enterprises, services, and activities located on the main level. Depending on size and preference, the ring village can host meeting halls, entertainment venues, light manufacturing, health care, shopping, skilled craftspeople, restaurants, bakeries, and even schools.

Human scale

If you've ever grimaced at strip malls and acres of parking lots that blight the landscape, you'll appreciate the environmentally friendly human scale of ring villages.

In cursory examination of multistory ring villages and cities, it's clear that the stacked walkways and balconies present a friendly environment for foot power, as well as wheeled human powered vehicles.

Frugal Engineering

A circle encloses the most with the least exposed surface area. Which means the cylindrical walls enclose more volume for less material. Apartments have minimal exposed surface area, saving on energy to keep comfortable.

A ring is also safer, spilling winds, instead of channeling the wind into a blast, as does a line of skyscrapers.

Curved walls are self supporting, and resist side forces better than flat walls. That makes them better survivors for earthquakes and hurricanes.

A continuous enclosure offers enhanced security, reducing or preventing unauthorized access. A ring village can be the ultimate gated community.

And if the exterior walls were made of a substantial barrier, such as 2 meters (6 ft) of rammed earth skinned with ferrocement, they'd be a formidable defense against storm surge, flash flooding, and windstorms. Imagine if New Orleans was built from ring villages - each village would have been a haven! No single breach of a ring wall would flood their neighbors.

Final thoughts

To better accommodate the growing population of our coming generations, we should plan for them. And a ring village design may represent one of the best solutions to provide the necessities, and the luxuries that make life good. Why not build to a new plan that provides nearby access to parkland, playgrounds, nature, urban retail, convenient delivery, and socializing space - as we promenade around the ring road.

MORE INFO:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ring_life/
http://www.ozmirage.org/anic/tiki-index ... ng+Village

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Post Sat Jan 15, 2011 4:15 pm

Re: Shelter: Dual ring villages

this is very interesting. I will be thinking about this

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Post Sat Jan 15, 2011 8:26 pm

Re: Shelter: Dual ring villages

A few years after thinking up the idea, I found out that the Chinese had already built a similar concept of an enclosed clan village... hundreds of years ago.
http://www.chinadwelling.dk/hovedsider/ ... -tekst.htm

There's considerable data on the functionality and usefulness of their design. The majority are rammed earth fortified villages, to deal with unfriendly natives (or the occasional Japanese pirate raid).
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Post Wed Jan 19, 2011 7:48 pm

Re: Shelter: Dual ring villages

These "tulou" are very good for their purpose: A highly defensible central living area for a very cohesive group of families. I think the article said some 500-600 inhabitants. Virtually a small village in a nutshell. Farmlands surrounding.

All in all, a very nice approach for a very hostile environment. They weren't dealing with MZBs; they had the next village over to contend with and from the historical accounts, clan warfare was a constant thing those days.

The problem is it took like 7 years to build one of those monstrosities. About the same level of effort as for medieval castles, but these structures housed a bunch of families.

Wouldn't it be great if we could get 150-200 doomer families to pool their resources and build one of these? With a bunch of trade shops and croplands surrounding it in some remote valley? I'd make the move.

The problem is everyone would want it in their back yard...
Don't tell ME not to prepare because it's "hopeless." If you don't prepare, then be quick about your dying post collapse. Don't be running around trying to scavenge stuff up last minute. Leave that for me and mine during the salvage age.

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Post Wed Jan 19, 2011 9:22 pm

Re: Shelter: Dual ring villages

mousewizard wrote:These "tulou" are very good for their purpose: A highly defensible central living area for a very cohesive group of families. I think the article said some 500-600 inhabitants. Virtually a small village in a nutshell. Farmlands surrounding.

The size and occupancy varied. I don't have a comprehensive database on them. Some of my reference links are broken.
mousewizard wrote:All in all, a very nice approach for a very hostile environment. They weren't dealing with MZBs; they had the next village over to contend with and from the historical accounts, clan warfare was a constant thing those days.

There are historical records that Japanese pirates routinely avoided attacking the tulous. Though they weren't MZBs, they weren't "fun" to be around.
The Hakka people were the uninvited "guests". The locals "objection" was the rationale for the fortresses.
The Hakka dialect is used in Taiwan.
http://www.china.org.cn/english/China/96774.htm
mousewizard wrote:The problem is it took like 7 years to build one of those monstrosities. About the same level of effort as for medieval castles, but these structures housed a bunch of families.

Wouldn't it be great if we could get 150-200 doomer families to pool their resources and build one of these? With a bunch of trade shops and croplands surrounding it in some remote valley? I'd make the move.

The problem is everyone would want it in their back yard...

IMBY or NIMBY?

Remember, the Hakka Tulou were rammed earth (labor intensive) and literally "dirt cheap". There is no reason not to build with reinforced concrete and use stress skin methods.
This would be ideal for a dual ring village:
http://www.contourcrafting.org/
{Basically, formless concrete wall fabrication. The dual rings could be constructed in a very short period of time. And if the fabrication machine track was standard gauge, it could be reused as a streetcar track.}

With 200 charter subscribers, pooling 12,000 FRNs each, would have 2.4 million FRNs to work with. That should be sufficient to buy land (15 acres or more), and the materials to construct it. (Labor provided by the Ringers)
When finished, no mortgage to worry about.

The Ringers could even operate a business building ring villages for others.


More material collected here:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ring_life/

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Post Thu Jan 20, 2011 11:41 am

Re: Shelter: Dual ring villages

mousewizard wrote:Wouldn't it be great if we could get 150-200 doomer families to pool their resources and build one of these? With a bunch of trade shops and croplands surrounding it in some remote valley? I'd make the move.

I originally thought it would be easy to find like minded folks, too.
But in the years I've tried to drum up interest - or even debate - there seems to be little response.
Frankly, 'village building' is not high on the list of things folks wish to do - even the super rich. Gates nor Buffett nor other billionaires wish to invest in them - or at least do not advertise their activities.

Cooperative ventures tend to be viewed as doomed-to-fail attempts at communal utopia. There are many examples of vibrant alternative communities infiltrated by parasites and dragged down into destruction.

I've tried to instigate dialog, especially among those who are most disaffected with the Status quo. But it appears that a dual ring village is too far outside of their comfort zone.

That is most disconcerting, based on the proliferation of amateur SHTF fiction that plainly discloses the tactical weakness of suburbia and the vulnerability of the urban megalopolis. Obviously, we know what is wrong, but appear powerless to remedy the situation.
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Post Fri Jan 21, 2011 8:15 pm

Re: Shelter: Dual ring villages

Yeah, that's been my experience as well. We'll see if anything changes as we trundle off the cliff.

Am slowly building relationships with area doomers over at CollapseNet. Seems to be the only place where there's a concerted effort focused on linking up. We'll see how it goes this year provided we don't wind up fighting MZBs.
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Post Sun Sep 04, 2011 4:35 pm

Re: Shelter: Dual ring villages

Ring villages: Several brief comments here about security and them being highly defensible.

If any further weight is needed for that part of the justification, them you need only look to English and European Castle designs from the 11th century Norman 'motte and bailey' models (a stronghold Keep on a mound within a wooden pallisade and a moat, surrounded by another pallisade and moat) through to the much more complex and highly evolved stone built Welsh Border castles erected by King Edward 1st in the 13th century, where every gateway between each of the many rings was designed to be a highly defended killzone and to slow down and deter all but the most determined and well armed/armoured/provisioned attackers. Guns, cannon and explosive sapping techniques brought the big castle building projects to an end, but the design principles are still effective today if a community wants to keep hold of it's stuff and can get organised.

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Post Sun Sep 04, 2011 6:40 pm

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JackOfAll wrote:... where every gateway between each of the many rings was designed to be a highly defended killzone and to slow down and deter all but the most determined and well armed/armoured/provisioned attackers. ...l

The trapezoidal shape of a gateway does lend itself to being an excellent means of defense. Any large force would be constrained by the narrowing walls.

Recent news highlights the inherent advantages of a fortified dual ring village:
[] Earthquake in Virginia - the curved walls have greater resistance to side forces and depending on construction method, should have little or no damage.
[] Tornadoes - high winds and wind blown debris would not be as great a menace, especially if the exterior walls are thick and durable.
[] Hurricanes and storm surge - the curved walls should provide excellent refuge from high winds and debris. And the robust exterior barrier wall and watertight gateways should make the ring village into a safe island in a storm.
[] Flooding - up to the limits of the exterior wall and watertight gateways, the dual ring villages should survive short term flooding with minimal damage to occupants or property. Long term flooding damage will be dependent on the particular civil engineering features used for drainage and so forth.
[] Climate extremes - very high and very low temperatures can be endured far better in a dual ring village, due in part to the shared surfaces that minimize exposure to the elements.
[] Fire - If the basic structure is composed of nonflammable rammed earth, concrete, fiber reinforced cement, and stone, there is reduced fire hazard to the structure. Additional features such as sprinklers can improve that performance even more.

Perhaps it is the time we start thinking 'in circles'.
Apple's new ring headquarters:
http://michaeloon.com/blog/new-apple-hq ... e-decline/
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Post Sun Sep 04, 2011 9:47 pm

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I like some of the ideas here. I'm interested in building too. We can PM one another too. I have found some really good people here who are interested in taking ideas and showing great interest in putting them into action.

I want to build a community. If we are going to build a community, we need people to be a part of it. I am not interested in proselytizing, but joining with some people who know they want to be a part of a physical community too. So I have been too busy to process some of the ideas here, but building and design is what I teach at the college technical level.

So just thought I would put that out there for now. If you have any questions, I will do my best to answer them.
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