roccman's Assumptions and What Happens Thread

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Rocc, glad to see you turned my question about economic collapse and your response into this thread.

It feels like economic collapse is very near and even though I've been trying to understand what this means for a long time I still have a really hard time trying to grasp how this will play out. The government may try to put some more band aids on mortal wounds but I think we are coming to a time when that will not keep the illusion of BAU propped up much longer. --then what?

That right there is the million dollar question, or in our modern world the trillion dollar question (Even cliches are seeing record inflation). I try to tell the people around me, that when doom hits it will be from an unexpected source and even if it is from an expected source it will happen in an unexpected way.

I firmly believe the collapse will be semi controlled until food supplies get interrupted as civilization is only 2 weeks away from anarchy if people don't get to eat. So I watch all the daily news with great interest, but it's the stories regarding food that really get my attention. It's also the same reason when people ask me what they should do to prep, I tell them "Get food and when you have food, get more. Tell Nobody." It may not see you survive, but it will give you a hell of a better chance than without.

Though, I honestly feel there is a false flag in the works.... They need to kick this dog and pony show into high gear and to effectively do that they need to throw nations into war. Nothing like making a profit on population reduction. It will be the ultimate final hurrah of capitalism. I just don't know who they are going to make the bad guy.

@MGD and @Templar: good thinking

Post of the Day. Second?

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Good! Even cliches are seeing record inflation. Brilliant, Templar, brilliant

I still have a hard time thinking in terms of a false flag event, but so much of our industrial production is defense related and we (they) can't change that. I see the future more like the past depression. The realities of that were horrific and may be a global event in a short time. Yes I understand the past depression would be an improvement for millions and more. I am unable see how this will end knowing that end it will.

I am unable see how this will end knowing that end it will.

truer words bogey

the coming chaos

http://bravenewworld.in/petroleum-population/

as oil depletion occurs
so does the population
and in a MASSIVE way

the coming chaos

http://bravenewworld.in/petroleum-population/

as oil depletion occurs
so does the population
and in a MASSIVE way

the human project is about to get the "ahaaa" moment

I think I agree with VaMom and Templar most (and of course OH).

TPTB don't have as good a control as they'd like, unless you want to believe that they're making it seem like they don't have good control when they really do just to psych out people like us. If they can't make a landing on the moon there's no way in hell they can control that many people that well.

While the play Roccman lays out may well be their intention, such a plan wouldn't work out as well as TPTB might hope. Mass die-offs WILL mean mass infrastructure destruction as people try to find some way to survive, be it a faster die-off from a 24-hour supervirus pandemic or slow from starvation. And never mind that an embedded, necessary part of infrastructure are the people who run it, with the knowledge in their heads. The fact that valve #3 at Local Nuclear Reactor has to be cranked open a quarter turn for the reactor to cool properly isn't in the book.

The military certainly won't easily go along with a plan to round up survivors of some disaster en masse and forcibly relocate them to government camps, either. Yes, there will be plenty of yes-men, but there will be plenty who refuse on principle or even who see through the lies.

Some of this is logical, but you lose me, as anyone does, when it's "here come the Godlike powers of the folks in charge." They're just folks, folks.

The other thing people forget is that any prescribed kill would kill the golden goose. The ruling class are parasites, which means the larger the host the better. Why would they slit their own throats?

The dieoff will happen. "Killoff"? Some places, sure - it's happened, it's happening. As a mass conspiracy? I doubt it. Conspiracy theory is a bore, and more than that, the sorts of minds that continually swing towards conspiracy theory as being behind everything.

Smacks too much of the confused looking to oversimplify when the story loses them, which is mostly what it is.

Too much of this sort of speculation can kill a forum, because it drives a whole demographic who have no patience for this sort of voodoo away.

So MGD asked the question most of us have asked - and I pounded out a quick response below.
6 months to a year
massive global famine - 80% of population is dead

Now, if I recall, all this is supposed to come down THIS YEAR, right?

I be waiting and watching. Just like last year.

And if by some very strange, bizarre and exceedlingly unlikely twist of events, it does
NOT all come down, then what? Back to the drawing board with us? Really ought to have
a backup plan -- as far-fetched as it might be to imagine the need for one.

So MGD asked the question most of us have asked - and I pounded out a quick response below.
6 months to a year
massive global famine - 80% of population is dead

Now, if I recall, all this is supposed to come down THIS YEAR, right?

I be waiting and watching. Just like last year.

And if by some very strange, bizarre and exceedlingly unlikely twist of events, it does
NOT all come down, then what? Back to the drawing board with us? Really ought to have
a backup plan -- as far-fetched as it might be to imagine the need for one.

well - plan B is the same as plan A - live in the now

glad you stopped by alan -