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Post Thu Feb 09, 2012 7:14 pm

Obama waffles over contraceptives

America's fundis are now attacking not just access to abortion, but to contraception as well.
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2012/feb2012/cont-f09.shtml
Obama Cowers Before Religious Right on Contraceptives, Tom Carter.

Once again, the Obama administration is demonstrating its lack of commitment to core democratic principles on the critical issue of separation of church and state.
On January 20, the White House announced that it planned to implement federal rules that would require employer health insurance plans, including those of church-affiliated institutions such as Catholic universities, hospitals and charities, to provide access to birth control and contraceptives free of charge. These rules would come into effect in 2013 as part of the Obama administration’s overhaul of the health care system.
The Republican Party and the Catholic Church have responded to this announcement with an escalating offensive in the media, accusing the Obama administration of attacking the “religious freedom” of employers. The various Republican presidential candidates have raced to grandstand in front of the cameras, denouncing Obama as “anti-religious.”
In the face of this attack, the White House is desperately seeking to conciliate with the religious right and the Church. “We will continue to work closely with religious groups during this transitional period to discuss their concerns,” said Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius. The administration is open to “compromise” on the issue, Obama adviser David Axelrod announced on MSNBC cable TV Tuesday morning.......
The rules announced by Obama already exempt churches themselves, a major concession to the Catholic Church and the religious right.
This cowering before those who seek to use religion to limit workers’ access to birth control is one more demonstration that the liberal establishment is neither able nor willing to take a principled stand in defense of democratic rights. The only basis for opposing universal access to contraceptives, which are entirely legal, is religious doctrine. But the First Amendment to the US Constitution has historically been understood to bar the government from making religion the basis of law or social policy.
The impact of any compromise on this issue would fall most heavily on the working class. Under conditions of mass unemployment, cuts in social programs and a corporate assault on wages, the cost of contraceptives for millions of families would be prohibitive. On the other hand, unwanted pregnancies threaten economic disaster for families already struggling to make ends meet.
For the wealthy, the impact would be negligible. They have the means to access birth control in all of its forms.
The New York Times on Wednesday published an account of the internal debate within the Obama administration on the contraceptive rule which makes clear that the move was driven entirely by considerations of electoral expediency rather than political principle. Sebelius, Senior Adviser Valerie Jarrett and Deputy Chief of Staff Nancy-Ann DeParle argued in favour of the rule as a vote-getter among women in the November election, while Vice President Joseph Biden and other top advisers warned that antagonizing the Catholic Church would harm Obama’s re-election chances.......
The leading figures of the American Revolution of 1776 had nothing but contempt for the entanglement of religion and politics, which they identified with the Dark Ages. In discussions over the First Amendment, Thomas Jefferson called for a “wall of separation” between church and state. James Madison declared that “there is not a shadow of right in the general government to intermeddle with religion.” Madison famously opposed allowing “three pence” of public funds to be spent on religion.
Nearly two and a half centuries later, these sentiments and principles have disappeared from the American political establishment.
Twenty eight states already require all employers, including “faith-based” ones, to provide access to contraceptives through their employee health plans. Moreover, there is overwhelming support in the population, including a majority of Catholics, for providing such contraceptives free of cost.........
Any backtracking by the Obama administration, however, would cast a shadow over the existing state laws that require religious employers to provide access to contraception in their employee health plans.
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Post Fri Feb 10, 2012 7:18 pm

Re: Obama waffles over contraceptives

It's hardly an attack when someone doesn't want to be forced to pay for something they disagree with.

Aside from the religious angle, however, low cost or free contraceptives are a great cost-saving measure in the long run.

Sounds like a lead-in for the national government healthcare plan, though.
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Post Fri Feb 10, 2012 7:56 pm

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This isn't about "someone," but about institutions which employee people. Should we also exempt Christian Scientist-run entities from paying for any health benefits at all, since they believe in prayer vs treatment?
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Post Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:16 pm

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Yes.

It's entirely possible for people to buy their own health insurance--anyone who's been self-employed knows that.
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Post Fri Feb 10, 2012 10:45 pm

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Right, with their wages, which barely pay for stuff like rent, utilities, food, .. people are also gonna buy health insurance. Sounds like you are quite clueless as to at what level most people live.
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Post Sat Feb 11, 2012 4:22 am

Re: Obama waffles over contraceptives

Not health insurance,but contraceptives.Most employees of Catholic hospitals and schools can afford to buy their own contraceptives (it works out to a couple of dollars a day in some cases).Most people spend much more than that on fast food,sodas,coffee,ect., and if they can't or won't do that they need to work for an organization that doesn't have the word Catholic in it's name.
You really have to admire the way Obama stepped in it...coming and going.What a waste of good shoe leather :lol:
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Post Sat Feb 11, 2012 5:41 pm

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PM, save your little bout of righteous indignation. I'm holding off paying the rent, power, gas, and phone bills until I get paid for the job I just finished, which should barely cover this past month's expenses. I went without health insurance for nearly a decade because I couldn't afford it. And now that I have health insurance (and compared to what I used to dabble with when I was buying it myself, this is really good insurance) I still can't usually afford care. No one understands that lifestyle better than me.

The problem is that often that "someone" is indeed a someone like me (though usually a bit better off if that someone can afford to hire employees). Employers paying for part or all of an employee's health insurance constitutes part of the compensation package, nothing more and nothing less. I don't get that kind of compensation because I'm self-employed, and that's fine.

There's no reason employers should even be expected to provide health insurance, except that it's become expected and health insurance companies like it because they get to screw people over and not get blamed. Rather than having a full spectrum of fairly-priced plans, people end up paying more than they should through hidden costs for a crappy selection that doesn't fairly reflect their situations. Right now in our plan we're paying the costs of several people who are significantly older and had significant health problems, rather than paying based on our own risk levels. If you really think that insurance companies are somehow losing money when employers offer health insurance, you're either naive or deluded.
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Post Sat Feb 11, 2012 8:10 pm

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Right, maybe employers shouldn't be required to provide a minimum wage, or breaks, or vacation time, sick leave,... either. "Free market all the way," i.e. free capital of all its minimal social obligations. Let "God" sort them out. :lol: :roll:
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2012/feb2012/cont-f11.shtml
Obama Caves in to Catholic Church, Religious Right on Contraceptives, Kate Randall.

President Obama on Friday caved in to pressure from the Catholic Church and the religious right, announcing that religiously affiliated employers would not be compelled to provide access to birth control as part of medical coverage for their women employees under his federal health care overhaul.
Obama said the coverage would instead be provided and funded by insurance companies.
This announcement, reversing an earlier decision to require employers, including church-affiliated universities, schools, hospitals and charities, to fund free access to contraceptives as part of their employee health insurance plans, represents a blow against the fundamental democratic principal of separation of church and state, laid down in the First Amendment to the US Constitution. Obama had already made a major concession to right-wing forces in the rule his administration announced January 20 by exempting churches from the requirement.
Obama and his allies tried to present the reversal as a small adjustment that would retain free access to birth control for women employees while addressing the concerns over “religious liberty” of his critics. But the climb-down has vast legal and social implications. It legitimizes the claim that religion can be used by employers to determine benefits available to their employees, opening the door to more aggressive attacks on workers’ rights on the pretext of religious belief.
It also casts a legal shadow over eight states that have existing laws requiring church-affiliated employers to fund free access to contraceptives for their employees. Friday’s reversal will encourage the religious right and the Catholic Church to mount legal challenges to those states’ laws.
It took exactly three weeks for Obama to capitulate to right-wing agitation, inflated by the media, from Catholic bishops and Republican presidential candidates and legislators.........
The White House capitulated despite overwhelming popular support for free access to contraceptives, including among a substantial majority of Catholics. Under conditions of mass unemployment and a ruthless assault on wages, benefits and social programs, many working class families would be financially devastated if they had to pay for this basic form of health care, or faced with an unwanted pregnancy.
Announcing the exemption Friday afternoon, Obama sought to conciliate with the religious bigotry of his critics. After asserting that “no woman’s health should depend on who she is or where she works or how much money she makes,” the president said, “We’ve been mindful that there’s another principle at stake here—and that’s the principle of religious liberty, an inalienable right that is enshrined in our Constitution. As a citizen and as a Christian, I cherish this right.”
These statements turn reality on its head. Obama’s cave-in is an unconstitutional attack on the rights of women at these religious-linked institutions, who will face discrimination in the provision of health care based on the religious outlook of their employers. Denying women access to birth control, which is completely legal in the US, has nothing whatsoever to do with “religious freedom.”
Under the banner of “religious liberty,” the opponents of the health care rule as initially announced are attacking the secularist foundations of the American republic that are spelled out in the First Amendment.......
The US Constitution’s framers viewed the injunction against government support of religion as a central tenet of the democracy they were creating, which established freedom from religion as well as freedom of religion. Obama’s abject capitulation is a demonstration of the lack of commitment to basic democratic principles of his administration, the Democratic Party and liberal establishment, and the ruling class as a whole.......
The deal offered by Obama is based loosely on regulations in effect in Hawaii and three other states, which require insurers to provide birth control “riders” for women who work at religious-affiliated institutions. Presently in Hawaii, these women can still get coverage at the price their employer would pay, but neither the employer nor the insurer is required to pick up the tab. Under Obama’s plan the insurers would be required to pay for it.
However, questions remain about how the regulation would be implemented in practice. As religious-affiliated employers would not be required to inform their employees of the availability of the coverage, women might be unaware that it was being offered. It is also not a given that insurers will voluntarily provide the coverage, although the Obama administration claims to have the authority to compel them to do so. Nor is there a clear mechanism to prevent insurers from passing on costs in the form of higher premiums.
Despite Obama’s cave-in, opponents of the original rule were not immediately appeased. Cardinal-designate Timothy Dolan, president of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops, commented, “While there may be an openness to respond to some of our concerns, we reserve judgment on the details until we have them.”
Brendan Buck, a spokesman for Republican House Speaker John Boehner, said, “The Catholic Church and others in our nation’s religious community are not yet convinced the president’s mandate doesn’t constitute an attack on religious freedom...”
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Post Sat Feb 11, 2012 9:41 pm

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Those things are a joke, PM. If you think that forcing employers to pay less than enough for a person to survive, or to grudgingly dole out days off somehow equalizes things, you're deluding yourself.
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Post Sat Feb 11, 2012 11:14 pm

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Forcing employers to pay less than enough for a person to survive? ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS? No employer has to be "forced" to pay too little, employers generally have to be forced to pay something close to survival wages, and constantly try to circumvent even that.
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