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Post Thu Jan 19, 2012 8:35 am

First Solar Recognizes Peak Energy

First Solar’s mission is to create enduring value by enabling a world powered by clean, affordable solar electricity. With a strategic objective to reduce the cost of solar electricity to be competitive with peaking conventional energy generation, a commitment to product life cycle management including an industry-leading module collection and recycling program, and a commitment to social responsibility, First Solar is creating this enduring value everyday–environmentally, socially, and economically.



http://www.firstsolar.com/Sustainability

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Post Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:56 am

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Cheap Chinese Panels Spark Solar Power Trade War
by CHRISTOPHER JOYCE
January 19, 2012

There's a solar trade war going on inside the U.S., sparked by an invasion of inexpensive imports from China.

The U.S. solar industry is divided over these imports: Panel-makers say their business is suffering and want a tariff slapped on the imports. But other parts of the industry say these cheap panels are driving a solar boom in the U.S.
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http://www.npr.org/2012/01/19/145403625 ... -trade-war

When is the sun expected to peak again?
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Post Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:10 am

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Love it!

If someone doesn't swipe that one i will :lol:
Slow down.... think and live from your heart, that is all that is real

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Post Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:13 am

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russshackleford wrote:...
When is the sun expected to peak again?


I don't know but I sure could use some here. It's -7C (19F) and that's pretty cold for the west coast, peaknik!

brrrrrrrr...... :P
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Post Thu Jan 19, 2012 12:13 pm

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russshackleford wrote:
Cheap Chinese Panels Spark Solar Power Trade War
by CHRISTOPHER JOYCE
January 19, 2012

There's a solar trade war going on inside the U.S., sparked by an invasion of inexpensive imports from China.

The U.S. solar industry is divided over these imports: Panel-makers say their business is suffering and want a tariff slapped on the imports. But other parts of the industry say these cheap panels are driving a solar boom in the U.S.
[...]
http://www.npr.org/2012/01/19/145403625 ... -trade-war

When is the sun expected to peak again?


Right, we all know that solar power simply requires sun, has nothing to do with resources which are themselves peaking and need energy for extraction and refining, and on components which require peaking conventional power for their production. :lol: :lol: :lol: :roll: :roll: :roll:
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Post Thu Jan 19, 2012 12:20 pm

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Which components disappear Picasso?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservation_of_mass

What materials can't be recycled?

The sun has provided energy for life for billions of years and will continue to do so long after you are dead. :o

Remember we've had this discussion. post52144.html#p52144 :roll:
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Post Thu Jan 19, 2012 12:39 pm

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It's takes a lot of energy to "recycle," Russ! Why do you think so many of the materials used in solar are called RARE earths? And where the f.... do you get energy for the tasks done by LIQUID FUELS ? Do you think all the cars can be replaced by electric cars?
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Post Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:15 pm

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russshackleford wrote:Which components disappear Picasso?



I suspect it is brain cells. They probably peaked awhile ago.

Opps. There went another one.

Now what was I saying?

Who am I?

What am I doing here?
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Post Thu Jan 19, 2012 11:47 pm

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It's been quite clear for a while what you're doing here. It's amazing that you're being allowed to get away with it.
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Post Fri Jan 20, 2012 12:18 am

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ooohhhh. That waskly wabbit.

Meanwhile in the real world . . .

MORE Surplus and more price drops . . .

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http://www.greentechmedia.com/research/ ... -2012-2016

Polysilicon 2012-2016: Supply, Demand & Implications for the Global PV Industry

The global polysilicon industry will undergo a major shakeout over the next two years, as the feedstock's epic 2011 price declines will continue through 2013. With new entrants bringing capacity online and incumbent suppliers fulfilling expansion plans fomented in the PV demand boom of yesterday, global polysilicon capacity is forecasted to double by 2013 over 2010 levels. In today's market of waning PV demand, this over-supply has already begun to open significant gaps in production scale and therefore cost structure between industry leaders and an increasingly marginalized group of new entrants.


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Thursday, January 19, 2012


BOSTON--(BUSINESS WIRE)--In 2011, the solar industry saw global oversupply drive PV prices to record lows, with crystalline silicon (c-Si) module prices falling from $1.80 per watt at the start of 2011 to $0.90 per watt by year’s end.

GTM Research's latest report, Polysilicon 2012-2016: Supply, Demand & Implications for the Global PV Industry report (http://www.greentechmedia.com/research/ ... -2012-2016) is a comprehensive analysis of the industry, covering the technologies and key players in the space. The report contains a facility-by-facility cost analysis illustrating the firms best positioned to survive an extended period of oversupply. The report also includes capacity forecasts by manufacturer, by technology, and by region through 2016.

High purity silicon (polysilicon), the key feedstock for c-Si modules, played only a minor role in this price collapse, as over 80% of polysilicon is sold via long-term contracts, and the pricing on these contracts moved little for most of 2011. However, oversupply in the polysilicon market pushed the spot price of silicon down from $80 per kilogram in late March 2011 to under $30 per kilogram in December. This substantially lower spot price gave silicon customers the leverage to renegotiate contract pricing downward, and this will result in much lower realized silicon average selling prices (ASPs) in 2012.

Lower silicon prices in 2012 will likely lead to even lower c-Si module prices. Without any other improvements, a $30 per kilogram drop in silicon price would save module manufacturers approximately $0.20 per watt, which could bring module prices below $0.70 per watt.

“In 2011, polysilicon manufacturing outpaced end-use,” said GTM Research Senior Analyst, Brett Prior. “After a half-decade of silicon demand outstripping supply, the aggressive expansion plans finally overshot. This supply/demand imbalance will push producers to lower contract prices closer to the level of manufacturing costs at $20 per kilogram, and will force higher-cost manufacturers to exit the industry. While the solar market will continue to grow at a 10 to 20% pace in the coming years, reductions in the amount of silicon used in each module means that end demand for polysilicon will grow at a slower pace. The end result is that the current roster of over 170 polysilicon manufacturers and start-ups will likely be winnowed down to a dozen survivors by the end of decade.”
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